Meta’s Head of Product (and 29th employee) on working with Mark Zuckerberg, early growth tactics, why PMs are like conductors, and more | Naomi GleitNaomi Gleit shares leadership tips, Facebook's growth secrets, and product management insights from her journey as Meta's longest-serving executive
Listen now on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Brought to you by: • Pendo—The only all-in-one product experience platform for any type of application — Naomi Gleit is head of product at Meta, joined as employee #29, and is the longest-serving executive at Meta other than Mark Zuckerberg. She’s been at the center of some of the company’s most foundational products, including Facebook’s early growth team. In our conversation, we discuss:
 Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/metas-head-of-product-naomi-gleit Some takeaways:
Where to find Naomi Gleit: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naomigleit • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-gleit/ • Website: https://naomi.com/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction to Naomi Gleit (01:53) Naomi’s journey at Meta (06:18) Landing a job at Facebook (10:40) Becoming a product manager (13:40) Working as Head of Product at Meta (14:55) Insights on working with Mark Zuckerberg (20:04) Small Groups and “disagreeable givers” (24:28) The legendary growth team (33:45) Activation metrics and onboarding (43:44) Naomi’s leadership and PM philosophy (53:00) Canonical documents (55:55) Simplifying complex projects (01:00:33) Teen accounts: a case study (01:06:37) Running effective meetings (01:12:10) The importance of exercise (01:16:36) The role of a product manager (01:25:49) Lightning round Referenced: • Friendster: https://friendster.com/ • Myspace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace • Sean Parker on X: https://x.com/sparker • Sheryl Sandberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-sandberg-5126652/ • Sheryl Sandberg quote: https://thevcfactory.com/if-youre-offered-a-seat-on-a-rocket-ship-dont-ask-what-seat-sheryl-sandberg • Making Meta | Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto • Making an impact through authenticity and curiosity | Ami Vora (CPO at Faire, ex-WhatsApp, FB, IG): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/authenticity-and-curiosity-ami-vora • Mark Zuckerberg on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@zuck •Mark Zuckerberg interview on Acquired podcast: https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-mark-zuckerberg-interview • Adam Grant on X: https://x.com/AdamMGrant • Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509 • Alex Schultz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexorig • Javier Olivan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/javierolivan/ • Social impact at Meta: https://about.meta.com/social-impact/ • Adam Mosseri on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosseri • Instagram teen accounts: https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/instagram-teen-accounts/ • Extreme Clarity: https://naomi.com/extreme-clarity-c977d38f56dc • Canonical Everything: https://naomi.com/canonical-everything-c85441a84e70 • Charles Porch on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesporch/ • Guy Rosen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guyro/ • How a Meta Executive Strong-Arms Workouts into Her Schedule: https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/fitness/how-a-meta-executive-strong-arms-workouts-into-her-schedule-57b9ab03 • Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/ • WAOAW sleep mask: https://www.amazon.com/WAOAW-Sleep-Sleeping-Blocking-Blindfold/dp/B09XV3Z484 • Tim Ferriss’s website: https://tim.blog/ • The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair That Changed America: https://www.amazon.com/Devil-White-City-Madness-Changed/dp/0375725601/ • The Splendid and the Vile: A Saga of Churchill, Family, and Defiance During the Blitz: https://www.amazon.com/Splendid-Vile-Churchill-Family-Defiance/dp/0385348711/ • Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind: https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316117/ • Sapiens: A Graphic History: The Birth of Humankind: https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Graphic-History-Birth-Humankind/dp/0063051338/ • Unstoppable Us, Volume 1: How Humans Took Over the World: https://www.amazon.com/Unstoppable-Us-Humans-Took-World/dp/0593711556 • James Clear’s website: https://jamesclear.com/ • Shōgun on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/shogun-5422a5f9-e4f1-475e-9217-65e8249388d0 • Dune: Part Two on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/movies/dune-part-two • Chris Cox on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-cox-2896b841/ • Promix: https://promixnutrition.com/ • My Supplement Stack: https://www.kevinrose.com/p/my-supplement-stack-a-science-backed • Fishwife: https://eatfishwife.com/ • Maui Nui venison meat sticks: https://mauinuivenison.com/collections/butcher-shop/products/all-natural-venison-stick-24-pack • U.S. Open: https://www.usopen.org/index.html • Pressure Is a Privilege: Lessons I’ve Learned from Life and the Battle of the Sexes: https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Privilege-Lessons-Learned-Library/dp/0981636802 Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. You're currently a free subscriber to Lenny's Newsletter. For the full experience, upgrade your subscription.
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